Definition of a “Click” when Lofting Clubs
There has been a lot of confusion about the term “clicks” in my lofting tutorials. I get a lot of emails about this, and I’ve seen posts about it over at the EA Forums as well, so I thought I’d address the issue publicly. When I use the term “clicks of loft” in my tutorials, I am NOT referring to the AUDIBLE clicks that you HEAR when adjusting loft. Those clicks tend to account for about 5% of power reduction. The clicks I am referring to are individual taps of the d-pad while holding the B button, and they account for about 1% of power reduction for most clubs.
Keep in mind that not all clubs can loft the same amount. Wedges tend to have around 35 available taps of the d-pad when lofting, allowing you to reduce power by 35%, while some longer irons don’t have this much. So when adding loft to your club, point your remote away from the screen (I usually point it down and hold it against my leg for stability), hold the B button in, and tap left on the d-pad. This will add individual points of loft to your club, reducing its power by about 1% per point.
I hope that clears things up, but if you still have questions, feel free to keep emailing me and commenting on the articles themselves.
So, No Chin….does the same apply when you click in the “other” direction, to keep the ball “down”? I played last night @ Hazeltine in 21 MPH tailwinds and was hitting about 290 with Driver, into the wind with about 5-6 clicks RIGHT.
I honestly can’t say for sure because I don’t loft down too often. It should be similar, if not the same. Try it out and see what kind of results you get and report back! I’ll be interested to know!
Well, I think it does, but I’m not sure….I just attributed my “lack of distance” to the 21 MPH headwind in my face. So, my new question is, “Does adding ‘loft’ get the ball in the air higher to allow the wind to affect the shot?”
It gets it higher, and on other golf games I’ve played, higher loft usually meant being affected by wind more, but I haven’t noticed this much on TW10. So I would say no, or at least not enough to notice much.
Do you use the same (irons) loft rules with full wedge shots? I find if i’m wedging to the green with a tail wind and i want to take a little distance off of it, hitting it higher, if anything, makes the situation worse…
My wedge play is a little different. Make sure you watch my video on Approach shots. Here’s the link if you haven’t been there yet:
http://tigerwoodspgatour.com/?p=549
I tried your lofting “formula.” After hitting the umpteenth shot long I realized that I had a trend going. So I went to Club Tuner to collect some data. For each iron and wedge in my bag I hit, clicked A to see where the ball landed and how far it rolled with 0, -5, -10, -15, -20, and at first -25 clicks of loft.
I learned some interesting things. First, there was absolutely no difference between the -20 (left taps on the D pad) and -25 for all irons and wedges. As it turns out, this is okay since I still get overlap from -20 on one club to 0 and the next shorter club.
Roll after carry decreases with each club. With the A wedge at -15 I got a back roll. On the G it began at -10. The S started at -5, and the LB started at 0. I ignore the back roll since I never seem to see it on a green to the extent that i observed it in Club Tuner. All PW shots “stuck.” The A shot 0, -5, and -10 stuck as did the S at 0.
For the LB L, and HL wedges all 0 shots landed beyond the aiming circle and rolled back to just inside the top of the circle. Adjustment of the power slider didn’t affect this observation as it moved the circle, too. So here was the cause of being long.
So armed with this data, I went out on a fairly flat course (St. Andrews) to check it out. Instead of moving the circle to get the pin inside the top of the circle. I just adjusted for wind and elevation components based on the distance to the pin with the same formulas you use. Then I looked on my new table. In between two distances on a club I interpolated. First shot with a wedge resulted in a 1 foot putt. With the irons I was long a couple of times until I remembered to use the roll distance instead. I’m at least pin high a much greater percentage of the time with the irons, and have quite a few more uphill putts. You still have the unknown loft caused by uphill and downhill lies, which will mess these up. Various pin positions will cause you to think about the “safe” play (Like a 1 iron to a pin tucked in behind a bunker).
Anyway it looks like -20 is the loft limit.